   
EXPOSITION OF HEBREWS 6:1-6
   
Oh, goodie!
   
All right, I'll read it through one time like a Holiness, and then 
I'll read it through one time like Scofield, and then I'll read it 
through one time like Dr.  DeHaan--then we'll get it right.
   
All right, Hebrews 6, beginning at verse 1.  First of all, we'll come 
through like the Church of God and Assembly of God and the 
Pentecostal:
   
6:1--Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let 
us CHRISTIANS go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation 
of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the 
doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection 
of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  And this will we do, if God 
permit.  For it is impossible for those SAVED PEOPLE who were once 
enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, WHICH IS ETERNAL 
LIFE, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the 
good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If THOSE SAVED 
PEOPLE fall away FROM SALVATION, to renew them again unto repentance; 
seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him 
to an open shame.
   
So, Holiness people teach that it's a person who was saved and then 
lost it.  And, of course, it's kind of a foolish thing to teach, 
because verse 6 says if they shall fall away, it's impossible to renew 
them again to repentance.  And all Holiness people believe you can get 
saved again and again and again.  And whoever that is there, they 
can't get saved again!
   
So, that won't work.
   
All right, Dr.  DeHaan does it this way:
   
Verse 4:  It is impossible for THE CHRISTIANS who were once 
enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made 
partakers of the Holy Ghost (SAVED PEOPLE), And have tasted the good 
word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall 
away (IN THE SENSE OF CHRISTIAN SERVICE), to renew them again unto 
repentance (TO SERVE THE LORD); seeing they crucify to themselves the 
Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.  THEREFORE, THEY'LL 
SUFFER LOSS AT THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST.
   
That'll be in M.R.  DeHaan's books.
   
Now, of course, that overlooks the fact that the Judgment Seat of 
Christ is not in the book anywhere.  It also overlooks the fact that 
the name of the book is Hebrews.
   
All right now, Scofield has it this way:
   
Verse 4:  It is impossible for THOSE HEBREWS (JEWS) who were once 
enlightened (KNEW ABOUT THE GOSPEL), and have tasted of the heavenly 
gift (IN THE SENSE OF KNOWING ABOUT IT), and were made partakers of 
the Holy Ghost (IN THE SENSE OF GOING ALONG WITH THE CONVICTING OF THE 
HOLY GHOST), And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of 
the world to come (IN THE SENSE OF SEEING MIRACLES), If they shall 
COME RIGHT UP TO CALVARY AND THEN REJECT CHRIST, THEN THEY CAN'T 
REPENT AGAIN, seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh.
   
The Scofield note makes that the unpardonable sin.  You know, coming 
up, and then coming short of it.
   
Now, there's one more that I've heard recently, that the evangelists 
are using.  And they call this a hypothetical case.  They say, "It is 
impossible for those IF they shall fall away..." So, they're teaching, 
If a Christian could fall away, he couldn't get saved again--
hypothetical, see.  Not that he will.  But if he could, then he 
couldn't get back.
   
And all that's very fine, but it has nothing to do with the Bible.
   
Now, let me show you something here.  Turn to Hebrews 3, and let me 
show you the characteristics of the book of Hebrews.  You notice that 
every one of those interpretations that I gave, I had to stretch 
something?  Now, if you really want to see it stretched, you get the 
"Greek nuggets" by Kenneth Wuest or Zodhiates, and you watch those 
fellows go to the Greek and spend fifteen pages trying to change your 
King James Bible to make it teach what they believe.  Because they 
couldn't understand the verse!   
All right, now let's look at Hebrews 3 for a minute.  Then I'll try to 
nail that thing down.
   
Now, this is going to be a tough session.  I mean, I get more 
criticism for what I'm getting ready to show you now than anything I 
do in the ministry.  Because it isn't very good Baptist doctrine.  But 
I'm not a very good Baptist where the Baptists cross the word of God!  
I tend to be kind of a heretic along those lines.
   
All right, Hebrews 3:6:  "But Christ as a son over his own house; 
whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing 
of the hope firm unto the end."
   
Do you have to hold fast your confidence and rejoicing firm to the end 
to become a member of Christ's house?
   
No!  Of course you don't!
   
Now, of course, there's all kinds of ways around it.  You say, "Well, 
obedience," you know, or, "It isn't our salvation; it's the assurance 
of our salvation." I mean, Christian colleges have all kinds of ways 
to pervert the word of God.  Look at verse 14; you can't mess with 
that thing!  That doesn't even say a house.  It says, "For we are made 
partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence 
stedfast unto the end."
   
Now, how many of you people have received Christ?  Now, do you know 
when you became a partaker of Christ?  The moment you trusted Him as 
your Saviour!  And you did more than partake.
   
Somebody says, "Well, that means the Judgment Seat of Christ," and all 
that bunk.
   
When you got saved, you became bone of His bone, flesh of His flesh, 
and a member of His body.  You couldn't partake any more if you tried!
   
And when Paul prays, Paul prays for the fellowship of His sufferings, 
"that I might be a partaker of the fellowship of His sufferings." But 
that verse in Hebrews 3 didn't say "partaker of His sufferings." That 
thing said, "Partaker of Him!"
   
All right, now let me show you another one like it.  Come to Hebrews 
chapter 10.  Hebrews is a rough book!
   
Did you ever wonder why so many denominations teach you could lose 
your salvation?  I mean, we know they're wrong.  But don't you know 
they had some basis for doing it?
   
How do you account for the fact that the Lutherans, the Episcopalians, 
the Methodists, Church of God, Assembly of God, Pentecostals, 
Nazarenes, Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Campbellites, 
Catholics--how do you account for the fact that they all teach you can 
lose your salvation?  Now, I don't believe you can.  But don't you 
know they had something to go by when they taught that?  They didn't 
just make that thing up!
   
There are scores of passages in there like that!  I mean, they're 
rough!
   
Now, here's a real rough one.  Hebrews 10:26:  "For if we sin wilfully 
after that we have received the knowledge of the truth..." Any of you 
folks ever sin willfully after you got saved?  How many of you have?  
Well, I'm glad to see we've got an honest congregation!  Now, the 
"Holiness" people never sin willfully!  Because if they did, they'd 
lose it!  Did you ever stop to think about the mess people get into?
   
I was talking to a Holiness preacher one time, and he said, "He that 
is born of God does not commit sin, because his seed remaineth in him, 
and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
   
And I said, "Well, are you sinless?"
   
He said, "I was eradicated.  Had the old nature eradicated and 
sanctified and purified with fire." And he gave the experience.
   
I said, "Well, was that when you were saved?"
   
He said, "No, that's the second work of grace, brother."
   
I said, "The passage didn't say the second work of grace.  The passage 
said whoever is born of God does not commit sin.  He didn't say 
whoever is sanctified.  He said whoever is born of God!"
   
See the mess folks get in?
   
That guy would get that thing there, "Whoever is born of God does not 
commit sin."
   
I said to one fellow one time, "Well, have you sinned since you've 
been saved?"
   
He said, "I haven't committed a sin for eight years!"
   
And I said, "Brother, am I glad to meet you!  Take my hand, brother!  
I sure am glad to meet you.  The first man I ever met in my life who 
hasn't sinned for eight years!"
   
When I had him by the hand, I held on to him and I said, "You mean to 
tell me you've never overslept one time in eight years?"
   
And he said, "B-b-b-b-ut...but..."
   
And I said, "You mean to tell me you've never underslept one time in 
eight years?"
   
And he said, "But...but..."
   
I said, "You mean to tell me you've never overeaten one time in eight 
years?"
   
He said, "Well, I didn't mean that!"
   
I said, "Oh, yeah, I know what you meant.  You meant your standards 
are lower than mine; that's what you meant!"
   
All that stuff!
   
I said to a fellow one time, "Are you sinless?"
   
He said, "Yeah, I haven't sinned!  I'm perfect!"
   
And I said, "I sure would like to believe that, but I just never met 
anybody who was perfect."
   
And he said, "Well, I am!"
   
And in the back seat, his teenage daughter laughed and said, "Oh, 
Daddy, you are not!"
   
I mean, with a lot of these folks, the trouble isn't in their 
theology, the trouble is in their head!  They're about half crazy!
   
Let me read you "the Holiness nightmare." I wrote down a whole list of 
sins here, and drinking, dancing, fornicating, perversion, lying, 
swearing, killing, cheating, and stealing aren't even on the list.  I 
call this "the Holiness nightmare:"
   

   
What is sin?
   

   
Sin is to feel a secret pride in success, training or appearance.
   

   
Sin is to feel an important, independent spirit,
   
to feel bitter over what somebody has told you about the success of 
somebody else.
   

   
Sin is a harsh, sarcastic, unyielding spirit,
   
a touchy, bitter, sensitive spirit,
   
a desire to attract the attention of the opposite sex,
   
to say and do things to attract attention to self.
   

   
Sin is a constant complaining and desire to quit trying to do right.
   

   
Sin is unnatural or abusive acts to self or others.
   

   
Sin is a deceitful spirit that seeks to create false impressions,
   
to pick flaws and criticize when set aside unnoticed.
   

   
Sin is lustful and wandering eyes,
   
a shrinking from duty and reproach,
   
a tendency to retaliate when crossed,
   
permitting things you would not permit in your idea of a consecrated 
Christian.
   

   
Sin is a shallow, stingier uncleanness in thought or desire,
   
a joker or jester, vain or light in manner of conversation or life,
   
unwilling to put out for others unless personal advantage is involved,
   
partiality to certain people, classes, or denominations,
   
always thinking of what might have been if things hadn't happened the 
way they did.
   

   
Sin is being unthankful and unappreciative of your lot in life,
   
in constant fear of failure and taking an unmerciful attitude toward 
those who do fail,
   
or taking an inferior attitude toward those of wealth or position.
   

   
Sin is putting on a false or exaggerated humility,
   
imagining how others are praising you or speaking well of you.
   

   
Sin is straining at the truth and showing an "I don't care" attitude 
toward being caught in sin,
   
or shirking responsibilities.
   

   
Sin is the feeling of nervousness you get when you see somebody doing 
something you think you could do better.
   

   
Now, that's the Holiness nightmare, see?  And you never heard a 
Holiness preacher even mention those things.  And those things are 
sin!  That's sin!  That's where the trouble comes from.
   
All right, now Hebrews 10:26:  "If we sin willfully after that we have 
received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice 
for sins.  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery 
indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  He that despised 
Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  Of how 
much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who 
hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of 
the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath 
done despite unto the Spirit of grace?  For we know him that hath 
said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord.  
And again, The Lord shall judge his people.  It is a fearful thing to 
fall into the hands of the living God."
   
Now, I don't care what you do with that verse.  But that thing, as it 
comes out right now, as it stands right there, is somebody who has 
"trodden under foot the Son of God," and they're God's people!  "The 
Lord shall judge his people."
   
Now, Dr.  DeHaan will make that the Judgment Seat of Christ.
   
It won't work!  It will not work!
   
"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." It 
isn't for me.  I'm in His hand!  And no man can pluck me out of His 
hand!  It isn't a fearful thing for me to fall into the hands of the 
living God.
   
As a matter of fact, I'm one of His hands!  First Corinthians 12 says 
I'm bone of His bone and flesh of His flesh and one of His members, 
like an eye or a foot or a hand!
   
So whatever that thing is, it isn't me!
   
All right, now, I'll show you how folks read the Bible.  Look at verse 
30:  "We know him that hath said..." Do you know Him that hath said?  
"We know him that hath said--" He said it in the past.  'Way back 
someplace.
   
Where did He say it?  Where'd He say it?  Where?  Whereabouts in the 
past?
   
Deuteronomy 32.
   
Now, do you see how folks are?  They just go through the Bible and 
say, "Well, that means, Look out or you'll lose it!" Why, it has 
nothing to do with you at all!
   
Go back to Deuteronomy 32.  That wasn't given to any Christian in Los 
Angeles.  And the verse told you it wasn't!  The verse said, "We know 
him who hath said," and then gave you the reference.  But who ever 
checks the references?
   
All right, Deuteronomy 32.  Now look at this context, where this 
quotation came from.  Deuteronomy 32:35:  "To me belongeth vengeance." 
Verse 36:  "For the Lord shall judge his people." Who are His people 
in Deuteronomy 32?  It's the Israelites!  Israel!  It's the Jews!  
That's not talking about Christians.
   
Look at the time of this thing here.  Verse 29:  "...their latter 
end!" Verse 41:  Armageddon!  Verse 42:  Armageddon!  Verse 43:  the 
Millennium!
   
It's talking about a Jew in the Tribulation!
   
All right now, back in Hebrews, you find verse after verse after verse 
that keeps indicating that you can lose your salvation.  And the 
reason why you can is because, in the Tribulation, you can!  And the 
biggest argument for a pre-Tribulation Rapture is the fact that, in 
the Tribulation, if you were there, you could lose your salvation.  
That's the greatest argument for a pre-Tribulation Rapture anywhere in 
the Bible.
   
And you've got a bunch of folks saying, "Do Christians go through 
Tribulation?" They couldn't if they tried!  If they did, they would be 
liable to lose it!
   
All right, now I'm going to draw something for you here.  And it's 
going to be wild.  I know some of you are going to raise an eyebrow at 
this.  And the reason is, Dallas, Moody, Fuller, Wheaton, Springfield, 
Arlington, Bob Jones, Biola, Midwestern, Mid-South, Northeastern, 
Southeast by Northeast, don't even get into these kinds of things.  
All they do in these Christian schools is make the Bible teach what's 
in the Scofield reference notes.  And those were out in 1909.
   
All right, lookie here.  Watch this thing here.  God puts Adam down in 
that garden, and He tells him, "Don't eat of that tree." And he does!
   
Puts ol' Adam down there, and he puts him down there on a works basis.  
All Adam has to do to be saved is just don't eat of that tree. Pure 
works, if you ever saw it!  And when He runs him out there, He covers 
him with clothes and kills a lamb; covers him with clothes of a lamb's 
skin--pure grace!
   
All right then, back in the Old Testament, from Adam up here until the 
time of Moses, you find, "By faith, Enoch did this..." "By faith, 
Abraham did this..." "By faith, Isaac did this..." "By faith, somebody 
did this..."
   
Then along comes Moses, and the children of Israel say, "All the Lord 
God says unto us, we'll do!"
   
Paul says, "The man that doeth those things shall live by them under 
the law."
   
So, from Moses until the time of Christ, you have a setup of faith and 
works--and there isn't any way you can cut that thing with a knife.  
It's faith and works--isn't any doubt about it at all!  "Don't touch 
this." "Don't touch that." "Wash over here." "If you don't do this, 
the soul will be cut off from the people." "If you don't do that, the 
soul will be cut off from the people." WORKS, WORKS, WORKS, WORKS!
   
When you get to talking like this, then somebody says, "Well, Ruckman 
doesn't believe in salvation by grace." I believe every person who 
ever got saved got saved by grace!  That hasn't got anything to do 
with what I'm talking about.  I'm not talking about grace; talking 
about faith and works. It's the grace of God that any of us get to 
heaven!  Always has been!  I believe anybody who was ever saved was 
saved by grace.  But the grace is negative.  God will give grace to 
anybody.  He caused the rain to fall on the just and the unjust.  God 
is merciful to a lot of people who aren't saved.  God's grace is 
sufficient.
   
All right, you get up here to the time of Christ.  Then, after Christ 
dies on the cross, He comes up from the dead.  When He comes up from 
the dead, Simon Peter gets up in Acts chapter 2, and somebody says, 
"You want to get saved?" And he says, "Yeah.  How do you do it?"
   
Peter says, "You gotta get baptized!"
   
Somebody says, "Oh, no, he was saying, `Be baptized because your sins 
have been forgiven.'"
   
Yeah!  But he said, "You can't get the Holy Ghost unless you're 
baptized in water." Acts 2:38:  "Repent, and be baptized every one of 
you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye 
shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
   
Right?  Isn't that Acts 2:38?
   
That's Acts 2:38!
   
Take your Bible and turn to Galatians 3.  You didn't get the Holy 
Spirit by getting baptized.  If you get into that baptismal and you 
get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins 
until you're red, white, and blue, you'd still go to hell!  You can't 
get the Holy Spirit by getting baptized in water.  Turn to Galatians 
3.  The Bible says, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a 
workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of 
truth." All right, in Galatians chapter 3, let's see how you got the 
Holy Spirit.  Verse 14:  "That the blessing of Abraham might come on 
the Gentiles through Jesus Christ:  that we might receive the promise 
of the Spirit through..." what?  FAITH!  There's no water baptism to 
it.
   
You got the Holy Spirit before you got baptized in water--just like 
Cornelius did in Acts 10.  In Acts chapter 10, he's preaching, 
Cornelius and his house believed, and they received the Holy Spirit 
before they were baptized in water.  So, in Acts chapter 2, Simon 
Peter is still preaching a faith-and-works setup.  The gospel of the 
grace of God hasn't yet been revealed.  It isn't revealed unto you get 
around to chapters 8, 9, and 10 of the book of Acts.
   
All right then, you go on here, and you're saved by grace through 
faith.  Then the Holy Spirit takes the body of Christ out, and the 
Great Tribulation starts.
   
How is a man saved in the Great Tribulation?  He's saved by faith and 
works. Turn to Matthew 24.  Faith and works.  Without the works, he'd 
go to hell, just as sure as he's standing there.  When the Holy Spirit 
leaves and takes the body of Christ out with Him, in Matthew chapter 
24, look how a man is saved.  Matthew 24:13:  "But he that shall 
endure to the end, the same shall be saved." Now what are they doing 
in the passage?  All right, look at the passage.  Verse 14:  
"...gospel of the kingdom..." Not the gospel of the grace of God.  
Verse 15:  worshipping in a temple.  Verse 16:  in Judea.  Verse 20:  
keeping the Old Testament Ten Commandments.  See the Sabbath?  Verse 
20.  Faith and works.  Faith and works.  Faith and works.
   
Take your Bible and turn to Revelation chapter 14.  In the 
Tribulation, a man is saved by faith and works.  Without the faith, 
he's not saved.  Without the works, he's not saved.  That's what James 
is about.  Revelation 14:12, right in the middle of the Tribulation.  
Notice the mark of the beast, right in the context.  "Here is the 
patience of the saints:  here are they that keep the commandments of 
God..." WORKS!  "...and the faith of Jesus." FAITH AND WORKS!
   
Chapter 12, verse 17, right in the middle of the Tribulation.  Faith 
and works.  "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make 
war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of 
God..." WORKS ..."and have the testimony of Jesus Christ..." FAITH.
   
FAITH and WORKS.
   
Now, you ask about the passage in Hebrews.  I'd say this.  I'd say 
that Hebrews 3, Hebrews 6, and Hebrews 10, where those passages are 
aimed, are aimed at a Hebrew in the Tribulation.  And, in the 
Tribulation, he has to endure to the end to be saved.  He has to put 
off the mark of the beast to be saved.  And he has to go by the Mosaic 
Ten Commandments to be saved.  And if he endures to the end, he's 
saved.  If he doesn't, he loses it!
   
And I'd say the passages in Hebrews that deal with losing salvation 
refer to a man losing salvation in this age.
   
Let me show you a clincher.  Revelation 22:14, which all the scholars 
have changed.  They will not believe what God says.  That's true of 
all the scholars.  Any fundamental scholar or premillennial scholar in 
America will change the verse, because he can't understand it.  
Revelation 22:14:  "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that 
they may have a right to the tree of life, and may enter in through 
the gates into the city." Salvation by works!  "Blessed are they that 
do his commandments."
   
Now the modern scholars--any of them, all the same crew--say, "Blessed 
are they that wash their robes," you know, that kind of bunk.  They 
can't believe a man can be saved by keeping commandments.  They're 
going to make the Bible say what they believe.
   
All during the thousand-year reign of Christ upon this earth, nobody 
is saved by faith!  You couldn't even have any faith.  Come to Hebrews 
chapter 11.  When Christ is on this earth, nobody could be saved by 
faith if they had the faith to do it!  Hebrews 11:1:  "Now faith is 
the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." 
Will we see Christ in the Millennium?  Will the people on the earth 
see Christ in the Millennium?  Will He be here in the Millennium?  
Then there's one thing you won't have in the Millennium--and that's 
faith!
   
Make sure you don't have it.  If you do, you get stoned.  Turn to 
Zechariah.  You'll get your brains knocked out.  Anybody who goes 
around preaching "faith" in the Millennium gets their brains knocked 
out by their mothers and daddies.  Turn to Zechariah.  And here is 
Christ on the earth in the Millennium.  Zechariah 12:10:  "And I will 
pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, 
the spirit of grace and of supplications:  and they shall look upon 
me..." look upon me ..."whom they have pierced." Chapter 13, verse 3:  
"And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his 
father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt 
not live:  for thou speakest lies in the name of the Lord:  and his 
father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he 
prophesieth." Context?  Verse 6:  "And one shall say unto him, What 
are these wounds in thine hands?  Then he shall answer, Those with 
which I was wounded in the house of my friends."
   
All right, in the Tribulation a man is saved by faith and works; in 
the Millennium a man is saved by works.  You can't beat that thing 
with a stick, folks!  There's no faith to it!  "Faith is the substance 
of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." And in the 
Millennium, Christ is right there, with a hole right there, and a hole 
right there, and a hole right there--and if that weren't enough, there 
will be about three million exact replicas of Christ out across this 
earth--from the Church Age--reigning with Christ.  There's no faith to 
it!
   
A man in the Millennium gets saved by keeping the Sermon on the 
Mount--which is pure works, from start to finish.
   
In the Tribulation, you know what happens to a fellow who doesn't 
visit folks in jail?  He goes to hell!  Did you ever read Matthew 25?  
"I was sick; you didn't visit me.  I was in prison; you didn't come to 
see me.  I was naked; you didn't clothe me.  I was hungry; you didn't 
feed me.  Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared 
for the devil and his angels." Pure works!  Pure works!
   
So, although anybody who's saved is saved by the grace of God, God 
doesn't save them the same way in each dispensation.  Noah was 
certainly not saved by "looking forward to Calvary," like the pretty 
little sermons say.  He was saved by building a boat!
   
In each age, the Lord says to a guy, "Do you want to be saved?"
   
The guy says, "Yes."
   
The Lord says, "OK, you do this."
   
The Lord said to Noah, "You wanna get saved?"
   
"Yep."
   
"Build you a boat."
   
The Lord said to Abraham, "You want to get saved?"
   
"Yeah."
   
"All right, I'm going to give you as many children as there are stars 
up there.  Do you believe it?"
   
"Yep."
   
"OK.  Imputed righteousness."
   
At Pentecost:  "Do you want to get saved?  Turn and get baptized."
   
You know what the message is now?  "You want to be saved?  Believe on 
the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved."
   
You know what the message is in the Tribulation?  The message in the 
Tribulation is, commandments of God AND faith in Jesus Christ.
   
They differ.
   
So concerning your question about Hebrews chapter 6, if I'm going to 
answer that thing right, I'd say this:  I'd say the Bible is not just 
written for Baptists in the Church Age.  I'd say the Bible is written 
for people in all ages.  And the book of Hebrews and James, in 
Tribulation epistles, you'll find verses aimed doctrinally at a man in 
the Tribulation, and in the Tribulation a man can lose it.  He can 
lose it.
   

   

 
