In recent weeks, having no clue of this particular issue, I was contacted by a few young Bible Believing men in Tennessee. They told me their pastor called me a heretic of the worst kind because I was teaching such blasphemy that Christ actually went to Hell. They even sent me the video of his sermon.
I was certainly caught off guard. I had never even given it another thought before. It was a simple fact that we all just knew! Little did I know the baptist bombshell I had unearthed - at least I didn't, anyway. There are folks all over that don't believe Christ went to Hell - and they would label me a heretic in a second because I do believe that Christ went to Hell.
Basically, they believe and preach that when Christ said it is finished, He meant that the sin payment was completed right there on the cross. It is called the Doctrine of the Cross.
Again, I must just remind folks that the Philadelphian church is my favorite as well as God's because they pleased God by following these three specific works: I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. Revelation 3:8
I believe it all became serious when I made such a staunch stand against the movie The Passion of the Christ and ended up throwing out those false images of Christ and true images of the antichrist. Silly me - I thought I was just going right along with all the other Bible Believing people - but my eyes were certainly opened concerning the "brethren!"
We have been seeing exactly who GOD the Father is - and that has opened up our eyes even more on the real Jesus Christ versus the 'another Jesus' that it seems now that more and more Bible Believers are grabbing onto. There is a huge trend to market a different Jesus to the 'unchurched' folks in order to build a bigger church - oh, I'm sorry, I meant to say "plant another" church!
We have seen in detail how God is Holy & is a Jealous God. He has shown us to be our Guide, our Judge, our Helper, our Defence, our Refuge, our Fighter, our Light and even our Salvation. But we also should see how He took us beyond Himself - He took us to the right and real Jesus Christ, then through the Holy Spirit, He took us to the right and real Book - the King James Bible - where folks can honestly find the true God!
We are now seeing that God hated sin so much, that He had to pay the full price for it - the wages of death, and that included Hell!
Getting Deeper but Not More Complex
Just as it says in I Corinthians 2:9-16, we can learn the deep things of God simply through that Book, which has the Spirit of God from Jesus Christ, of which all of it is truly of God! Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. John 14:10.
We here at Touchet Baptist Church are coming to see in bold confidence
the depth behind I John 5:7-9 For
there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the
Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear
witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three
agree in one. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God
is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his
Son. We all have come to learn that the fourth and
final witness of God really is that King James Bible, not some bible institute
teaching it's teachings 'from' the Book instead of the Book itself in someone's
Catholics are shut down completely with John 6:63
Water Baptizers - I Corinthians 12:13; John 3:6
The religious - Romans 10:2,3; II Timothy 3:5
Modern Gospel followers - II Timothy 2:15
Evidence of the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9
Charismatics - John 15:26,27; 16:13,14
7th Day Adventists - Colossians 2:16
Salvation losers - II Timothy 2:13
Anti-christ test - I John 4:1-3
Perverts - Romans 1:17-32
Baptist Briders - John 3:29
Debaters - Romans 1:29
Judgers - Romans 2:1,2
Music - Psalm 68:4
This is our 'church verse' here in Touchet and for those of you out in the web world.
We know his body was laid in tomb of Joseph of Arimathaea. Matthew 27:57,60 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple: ... And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.
We know his spirit returned unto the Father - Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into they hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
But His soul?
I know - it seems like a simple question, eh!
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell,
neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Do you want the simple answer or the complete and complex study? Click here for a good solid and complete Bible Study on Christ going to Hell. You know, we can all put together a complete and complex study to prove anything with that Bible, so one must be ready to debate the issue these days, both seem to use the Book as their final authority if you want the complete detailed search of all the issues in detail. But I don't debate anymore. Debate is a sign of the times in Romans 1!
But let's look at the simple answer -YES!
... and now for the simple explanation:
|If I had not accepted Christ as my Saviour, then I would have eventually
"died in my sins." The Bible is clear that when I die, I am
either present with the Lord or absent from the Lord and burning in Hell!
the wages of sin is death, and that death is the first death,
meaning hell, because the second death is the lake of fire and as those
in hell come out of hell for their second death, then hell is where we
go when we die without Christ - that is our first death!
What did Christ do for me? He died for me; He went to Hell for me! He paid for my sins. ALL of them! The demand for payment on my sin was paid in full by Jesus Christ. He is the propitiation for my sins. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. I John 4:10. Romans 3:25 says Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
In other words, Christ became my propitiation. What I was going to have to do to pay for my sins was die and go to hell. BUT... Christ took my place and paid my debt. CHRIST HAD TO GO TO HELL OR MY PAYMENT IS NOT PAID IN FULL!
I am not saying it was finished in Hell, either, by the
It isn't really all finished until He departs at the beginning of Acts...
or until the rapture... or until the 2nd Coming... or until the white throne...
Here are some of their beliefs and comments.
a) When Christ said "It is finished," the atonement for our salvation was done right then and there!
b) Christ couldn't have suffered in Hell.
They really have a hard time thinking that Christ would "burn."
That point really irks them, to think that Christ would have to suffer in Hell!
c) They say there is no need for a 'second' atonement as all things
were accomplished on the cross.
(remember, they are applying the word finished to the atonement)
d) They turn to the Hebrew to see how to deal with the "lower parts of the earth."
e) The thief was told Christ would see him in paradise 'today'
so He couldn't have gone to the burning Hell!
f) Christ's going to Hell would be the same type of purgatory,
so He couldn't have gone to the burning Hell!
Basically, these are good folks but are still just hung up on the cross!
Now, remember, I am not bashing the folks, just the teaching. Isn't that comment something! We used to have to say that about the lost folks we were witnessing to - now we have to say it about our own brethren. Anyway...
These are the folks that have crosses in their churches, on their bible
covers, in their lobbies, on their bumpers, hanging from their ears and
necks, etc. and love to sing that they will cherish the old rugged cross.
Emblem of ecumenicalism!
Not for me, folks - the unsaved perverted world loves that cross and for what it represents - they know it represents the DEATH of Jesus Christ - the tortured death! The satanists use it, the catholics use it, jewelry shops sell it, the lost world accepts it - but it all represents a false christianity! The cross is NOT so despised by the world! That cross is the emblem of ecumenicalism and is probably even the emblem of the anti-christ!
If I have to have an 'emblem, then my emblem would be the Bible - the King James Bible, but an emblem is something to wear - something to show and I don't just want to "wear" my KJB for show - it is real! It isn't my 'emblem' of anything, it IS my closeness and fellowship to God and to the Lord Jesus Christ!
Do you ever see a Satanist or a catholic wearing or carrying a bible anywhere?
And yes, one of the things beyond the crucified life are FIERY trials, just like the fiery trial the Lord had to go through in Hell! Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. I Peter 4:12,13
2. If Jesus Christ went only to Abraham's Bosom and then returned with the captives, what did He do with the sins that were in his own body?
3. If Christ bore our sins in his own body and became sin for us to the point of being made a curse...
a) What did He do with our sins?
b) Are they still on Him?
c) Where were they taken off?
d) Who took them off?
e) Did HE put them off?
f) Where were they placed?
g) Where are they right now?
You see, this is not just another baptist hobby horse issue...
this is a doctrine that deals with the complete truth concerning salvation!
The atonement of our sins!
Yours - Mine!
And... there is one more reason for this to be such an issue - but I
will save that until the end...
They have a hard time considering He would suffer in Hell! Why? He suffered on the cross! The Book is full of verses on Christ suffering and us suffering. Sure, He suffered on the cross, but what is to say He shouldn't suffer in Hell?
And besides, when Jesus was in the fire with Shadrach, Meshach and Nebednego, none of them suffered while in the flame. Just maybe it was a type of the same thing?
Keys to Hell
Christ went to Hell, did what He had to do there, took the keys, and just walked out of there. Why is that not a possibility?
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. The gates of Hell did not prevail against Him as Christ is the church. Unless He was trying to open the door to get INTO Hell... What a stupid thought that is, eh!
Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
P.S. Issue... But wait, isn't this another issue in waiting - most baptists tend to think that it is the local church that the gates of Hell won't prevail against. That is hardly true - look at all the baptist churches that have either lost their pastor, closed their doors, burned down or gone totally apostate! Certainly the gates of Hell have won those battles - and will continue to win more and more!
Acts 2:27 - Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, (he didn't), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption ( He didn't - His body was in the grave).
The Bible says that Christ purged our sins. He burned them up in the fires of Hell. Matthew 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire..
Christ preached unto the spirits in prison...
I Peter 3:18-20 - He preached judgment!
Christ preached to those in Paradise... I Peter 4:6 - He preached the gospel!
2. If Christ bore our sins, and He did - I
Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare
our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins,
should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed;
...if Christ became sin for us, and He did - II Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.;
...if Christ became a curse for us, and He did - Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree;
...how does He appear the second time without sin unless He deposited those sins somewhere? Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Why couldn't Mary touch Him yet the disciples could? See Hebrews 9:12-14 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Christ had to go up to the Father, but at that time, He was already without sin. Where were those sins left?
WHERE ARE YOUR SINS RIGHT NOW?
They were on Christ and He bore them ON his body (Isaiah 53; II Corinthians 5; I Peter 2:24). If He did NOT go into the heart of the earth and preach to spirits in prison (I Peter 3:19), what did He do with our sins? They were on Him when He died!
It is Finished
He said it was finished when he was on the cross because it was finished. What was finished? His purpose and life on earth.
Listen, he said it was finished back in John 17:4: I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. but He wasn't 'done' then! He still had some events to go. But he has finished the work that He was given to do... (that is another sermon sometime - here is one... John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
So you see, He wasn't done on the cross either, He had some more events coming that needed to be fulfilled.
But that is not the finale, folks! The finale is this..
WHY did Christ do all this?
For you? For me? For us?
Well, the Bible does say that He did these things for us.
Romans 5:8; 8:26; 8:31; 8:32; I Corinthians 5:7; II Corinthians 5:21; Galatians 3:13; Ephesians 5:2; I Thessalonians 5:10; Titus 2:14; Hebrews 9:12; 9:24; I Peter 2:21 and I John 3:16
But do we stop there because WE are our own idols - that the marketing
Our own selfishness!
We think this was all done totally for us - and for our happiness!
Well, it does say that too...
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions,
and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority;
that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
I Timothy 2:1-3
(note: it doesn't say 'happiness,' though - man are we mixed up these days, eh)
But just like Micah in Judges 17,18.
An idol that even the 'enemy' church wanted and stole...
But it was still nothing to God!
It was still a graven image.
We have allowed our selves to become a humanistic Christian - thinking
it really was all about us!
And so, we try to use God and use Jesus Christ to make us and others happy and feel fulfilled!
Jesus Christ did those things FOR US...
...in order to glorify Himself and God!
(be sure you read all these verses - God will impress on your heart is about Him, not you!)
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his
eyes to heaven, and said,
Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Romans 15:7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.
I Peter 4:14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
I Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever y do, do all to the glory of God.
II Corinthians 1:20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.
II Corinthians 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
II Corinthians 4:15 For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God.
Philippians 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father!
I Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
John 11:4 When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.
John 11:40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 2:11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.
II Thessalonians 1:7-12 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
...and if you don't believe Christ went to Hell,
you are contributing to the robbing Christ of His full glory...
thus robbing God of His full glory...
and just look at what all They did 'for you!'